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		<title>Is belief in the Protestant Work Ethic related to attitudes toward rich and poor?</title>
		<link>http://www.polipsych.com/2010/08/17/is-the-protestant-work-ethic-related-to-rich-poor-attitudes/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 08:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ravi</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently, a call went out to people who study social psychology to examine the relationships between belief in the protestant work ethic (e.g. "I feel uneasy when there is little work for me to do.") and measures of prejudice or political attitudes regarding poverty or HIV/AIDS. Researchers from Stony Brook University wanted to aggregate the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently, <a target="_blank" href="http://groups.google.com/group/spsp-discuss/browse_thread/thread/19cbde30c4470390/dfa6694453ceab5a?lnk=gst&amp;q=protestant#dfa6694453ceab5a" target="_blank">a call went out to people who study social psychology</a> to examine the relationships between belief in the protestant work ethic (e.g. "I feel uneasy when there is little work for me to do.") and measures of prejudice or political attitudes regarding poverty or HIV/AIDS. Researchers from Stony Brook University wanted to aggregate the results from datasets around the world. Since we do have endorsement of the protestant work ethic in our yourmorals.org dataset, I wanted to contribute to their effort and below are some correlations with potentially interesting constructs.  Hopefully this will help those researchers.</p>
<p>Correlation of Protestant Work Ethic with....</p>
<p>Attitudes Toward Homosexuals (r=-.36, N=303, p&lt;.001)<br />
Attitudes Toward Muslims (r=-.11, N=305, p&lt;.05)<br />
Attitudes Toward Poor People (r=-.193, N=306, p=.001)<br />
Social Dominance Orientation ("Inferior groups should stay in their place", r=.336, N=331, p&lt;.001)</p>
<p>I'm not sure if these are exactly the types or relationships that the researchers are interested in, but they seem related. The relationships seem pretty clear...that the protestant work ethic is related to negative attitudes toward outgroups (muslims, homosexuals, "inferior groups" and poor people).  However, the relationship between conservativism and the protestant work ethic is large enough (r=.416, N=1009, p&lt;.001), that it's possible that the only reason these variables are related is because they are all correlated with conservativism.</p>
<p>Sure enough, if we control for political orientation, the relationships become statistically insignificant for attitudes toward homosexuals (beta=-.085, N=229, p=.143) and Muslims (p=.459).  Attitudes toward poor people (beta = -.159, N=231, p&lt;.05) and social dominance orientation (beta = .138, N=262, p&lt;.05) remain significantly related to belief in the protestant work ethic, even controlling for ideology.</p>
<p>The below diagram shows this in graph form, where attitudes toward poor people are negatively related to endorsement of the protestant work ethic amongst both liberals and conservatives.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/pwe_poor0.jpg" rel="lightbox[272]"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-273" title="pwe_poor0" src="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/pwe_poor0.jpg" alt="" width="624" height="500" /></a></p>
<p>...and people who endorse the protestant work ethic also like rich people (see below).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/pwe_rich0.jpg" rel="lightbox[272]"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-274" title="pwe_rich0" src="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/pwe_rich0.jpg" alt="" width="624" height="500" /></a></p>
<p>At some level, this relationship is fairly obvious, but as a liberal, it's something worth internalizing, since liberals sometimes make negative attributions about conservative attitudes toward the poor (despite the fact that conservative churches often do great humanitarian work). Specifically, <a target="_blank" href="http://www.showmeprogress.com/diary/4427/why-do-conservatives-hate-poor-people" target="_blank">conservatives may not dislike poor people mindlessly</a>.  Rather, their opinions about rich and poor people may be related to worthy moral concerns, specifically a belief in the importance of hard work, and they may feel that wealth is indicative of hard work.  Results are consistent with <a target="_blank" href="http://faculty.haas.berkeley.edu/tetlock/Vita/Philip%20Tetlock/Phil%20Tetlock/1992-1993/1993%20Providing%20Public%20Assistance....pdf" target="_blank">work by Skitka and Tetlock</a>, showing that conservatives are strongly influenced by the responsibility shown by those who want assistance.</p>
<p>How can liberals use this knowledge? Perhaps rather than playing the race/fairness angle, if liberals can show that most Hispanic immigrants are actually very hard working (e.g. <a target="_blank" href="http://www.tedconover.com/book-coyotes/" target="_blank">see Ted Conover's book, Coyotes</a> - they do jobs which most of us would never do) much conservative antipathy towards various groups might dissipate.  Indeed, while much of the media makes it seem that Americans support efforts by people in Arizona to expel illegal immigrants, there are also findings like <a target="_blank" href="http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/07/29/cnn-poll-should-illegal-immigrants-be-allowed-to-stay/">this CNN poll</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Eighty-one percent of people questioned in the poll say they support creating a program that would allow illegal immigrants already living in the U.S. for a number of years to stay here and apply to legally remain in this country permanently if they <em>had a job and paid back taxes</em>, with 19 percent opposed to such a plan.</p></blockquote>
<p>- Ravi Iyer</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Democrats and Republicans agree that Justice &amp; Fairness are about Equity, not Equality or Impartiality</title>
		<link>http://www.polipsych.com/2010/02/20/democrats-and-republicans-agree-that-justice-fairness-are-about-equity-not-equality-or-impartiality/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 05:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ravi</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was browsing CNN today and I decided to expand my moral imagination by watching Glenn Beck Speak at the Conservative Political Action Committee meeting.  I was surprised how reasonable his message sounded to me, as I my previous impression of him was not good.

I believe that people should be able to get what they deserve [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was browsing CNN today and I decided to expand my moral imagination by watching <a target="_blank" title="Glenn Beck speaks at CPAC" href="http://cnn.com/video/?/video/politics/2010/02/20/sot.beck.cpac.cnn" target="_blank">Glenn Beck Speak at the Conservative Political Action Committee</a> meeting.  I was surprised how reasonable his message sounded to me, as I my <a href="http://www.polipsych.com/2009/09/23/moral-confabulation-glenn-beck-says-obama-is-a-racist-liberals-compare-bush-to-hitler/" target="_self">previous impression of him was not good</a>.</p>
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<p>I believe that people should be able to get what they deserve too. I don't begrudge small businesses who succeed through hard work. I appreciate hard work as much as anyone. Does that mean that I should switch parties?</p>
<p>None of my posts would be complete without a graph, so I decided to look at some of our data on justice and fairness from yourmorals.org. Below is a graph of how various ideologies would view changing a hypothetical allocation of a reward from ambiguous toward the use of some specific type of justice or fairness.</p>
<p>Equity concerns giving more to those who contribute more.  Equality concerns making the distribution more equal.  Need concerns giving more to those who need it more. Open information concerns making sure everyone understands the process. Equal voice concerns allowing everyone an equal say in how to make the allocation. Retribution concerns giving less reward to those who violate some relevant group norm. Higher bars indicate that making a change toward that principle is more desirable.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/allocation_principle_by_political_party0.jpg" rel="lightbox[110]"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-111" title="allocation principle by political party" src="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/allocation_principle_by_political_party0.jpg" alt="Democrats Republicans Fairness Justice Equity Equality Need" width="562" height="450" /></a></p>
<p>What did I learn from this graph? Liberals do care more about equality and need than conservatives and conservatives do care more about equity and retribution.  However, both liberals and conservatives (and libertarians) find an equity based distribution (e.g. "Suppose the company instituted a way of quantifying each employee's contributions, and it then adjusted the bonuses up or down accordingly") to be more desirable to an equal distribution (e.g. "Suppose the company divided the money such that each employee received an equal share<strong>.</strong>")  This somewhat captures how I feel about things.  I care about people getting what they deserve, but perhaps I am willing to consider equality and need in some situations as well.</p>
<p>Below is another graph using different participants, which concerns endorsement of abstract principles rather than hypothetical allocations and again, we see that the proportionality principle (e.g. "Whether or not those who contribute more are rewarded more") is deemed most important.</p>
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<p>The take home message for Democrats? Stop letting Republicans define policy as choices between equity and equality/need. Nobody is trying to stop small businesses from succeeding...few people want a completely equal society.</p>
<p>Rather, let's see if people are really getting what they deserve in life.  Do investment bankers really deserve million dollar bonuses?  I don't think they necessarily produce much more than many, and obviously in the past few years, their collective output has been negative. So I see taxing banks to recoup losses as a matter of equity/proportionality, not equality.</p>
<p>How about the working poor who work hard and then are bankrupted by a single medical expense? What percentage of Americans actually make enough money to pay for a chronic illness? We all need health care that doesn't go away when we get really sick and need to use it. So maybe health care isn't a right, but how can one argue with making sure the working poor and children all have health care? Does Glenn Beck's father, who owned a bakery and therefore would have immense trouble buying health care without a large risk pool, deserve health care less than those investment bankers who drove the economy into the ground with high risk derivatives?  If not, maybe we should do something about that.</p>
<p>Democrats should welcome a debate about how to really give people what they deserve in life.</p>
<p>- Ravi Iyer</p>]]></content:encoded>
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