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		<title>Equity trumps Equality in arguments about taxation</title>
		<link>http://www.polipsych.com/2011/08/31/equity-equality-deservingness-taxations-inequality/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 07:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ravi</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is more effective to advocate for progressive taxation using arguments about equity or deservingness rather than arguments about how unequal American society has become. 
I have written about this before, using different data, but with renewed attention being paid to rising inequality, leading liberals to continue to push for rising taxes for the rich, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>It is more effective to advocate for progressive taxation using arguments about equity or deservingness rather than arguments about how unequal American society has become. </em></p>
<p><em></em>I have <a target="_blank" href="http://www.polipsych.com/2010/02/20/democrats-and-republicans-agree-that-justice-fairness-are-about-equity-not-equality-or-impartiality/">written about this before</a>, using different data, but with <a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2009/09/income-inequality-still-rising/27455/">renewed attention being paid to rising inequality</a>, leading <a target="_blank" href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/20/opinion/20krugman.html">liberals to continue to push for rising taxes for the rich</a>, I feel like it bears repeating, this time with different data.    While most <a target="_blank" href="http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/09/25/poll-wealth-distribution-similar-sweden/">Americans might prefer a more equal distribution of wealth</a>, when positing such a distribution without considering who worked harder or contributed more, I doubt any study could show that any large group of people actually care about sharing some good equally more than adhering to the principle of deservingness.  People care more that people get what they deserve than if everything is shared equally.  Indeed if anybody knows of such a study, showing the oppositve, please share it with me.</p>
<p>Below is a graph of questions asking "how wrong" certain violations of fairness principles are.  For example, a violation of procedural justice concerns situations like a trial being decided with misleading information or a law being made without the input of affected parties (alpha = .77).  A violation of "lack of punishment" would concern a person going unpunished for a crime (alpha = .78).  A violation of equity/deservingness concerns a person contributing to society and not being rewarded or a bonus being awarded without considering the relative contributions of employees (alpha = .76).  A violation of equality concerns some employees being paid a lot while others are paid very little or a child inheriting a lot of money while another inherits nothing (alpha = .89).</p>
<p>To me, the interesting thing is not that liberals care more about equality than conservatives,or that liberals care less about punishing wrongdoers.  Both facts make sense but are almost self-evident if one pays attention to politics and current events.  Rather, the most interesting thing about this data (and any other data where I've pitted equality/deservingness against equality), is that everyone, including liberals, believes that equity/deservingness is a more important principle than equality.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/equity_equality_difference1.jpg" rel="lightbox[601]"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-602" title="equity_equality_difference1" src="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/equity_equality_difference1.jpg" alt="Equity vs. Equality" width="503" height="403" /></a></p>
<p>There are certainly caveats to this data, in that it's a limited sample and the conclusions are somewhat reliant on the questions I choose to ask.  However, this is but one of many datasets we have collected which tell the same story...that equity concerns trump equality concerns.  Moreover, I think this idea is quite "post-dictable" meaning that most people who really think about it, realize that they themselves, no matter how liberal they are, care more about equity/deservingness than they care about making things more equal.  <a target="_blank" href="http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/08/why-dont-we-resent-steve-jobs-wealth-ctd.html">This article from the Atlantic blog</a> sums it up nicely:</p>
<blockquote><p>I think very few (completely misguided) people resent “wealth” per se.  I don’t remember anyone ever begrudging Bill Gates’ wealth, either.  When people resent wealth, more often than not the resentment is directed at <em>how<strong></strong></em> the wealth is accrued rather than at <em>who</em> <strong></strong>has accrued it.  In certain instances, the how and the who become one and the resentment oozes toward the individual.  I’m thinking of the Paris Hilton’s of the world in this instance.  Here’s somebody who has done nothing of substance whatsoever; her wealth was accrued by virtue of genetic lottery.  But those instances where people resent a particular person for their wealth are, I think, rather rare.</p></blockquote>
<p>So how can liberals argue for progressive taxation as a matter of equity rather than equality?  One problem for liberals is that research on <a target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_justification">system justification</a> suggests that conservatives are more likely to believe that wealthy investors are more like Bill Gates than Paris Hilton.  I don't have data on this (though I hope to collect it), but one example that worked for me recently is to frame progressive taxation policies in terms of rewarding work, as opposed to investment.  <a target="_blank" href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0191886987902224">Conservatives value hard work</a> and I might even go as far as to say, anecdotally, that the conservatives I know work harder than the liberals I know (<a target="_blank" href="http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/604747.The_Dignity_of_Working_Men">see this book</a> which is tangentially related).  Yet, we live in a country where someone who works hard for a living pays taxes at a higher rate (the income tax rate) compared to someone who happens to buy the right stock or the right real estate property at the right time, and sells it later for a gain (taxed at the capital gains rate).  Or someone who inherits millions, and lives off their investments, a la Paris Hilton.  Hard work is penalized relative to profiting by owning things.  Is that fair?</p>
<p>- Ravi Iyer</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Perceptions of Scarcity &amp; Responsibility inform Budget Negotiations</title>
		<link>http://www.polipsych.com/2011/03/24/perceptions-of-scarcity-responsibility-inform-budget-negotiations/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2011 05:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ravi</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was recently asked about the psychology of scarcity and it gave me an excuse to revisit an old paper by Skitka and Tetlock (1992, Journal of Experimental Social Psychology) that contains a more complex version of the model I depict below.  Like many who are interested in politics, I've been following the recent budget [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was recently asked about the psychology of scarcity and it gave me an excuse to revisit an old paper by <a target="_blank" href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&amp;_udi=B6WJB-4D60JKC-73&amp;_user=10&amp;_coverDate=11%2F30%2F1992&amp;_rdoc=1&amp;_fmt=high&amp;_orig=gateway&amp;_origin=gateway&amp;_sort=d&amp;_docanchor=&amp;view=c&amp;_searchStrId=1692872812&amp;_rerunOrigin=scholar.google&amp;_acct=C000050221&amp;_version=1&amp;_urlVersion=0&amp;_userid=10&amp;md5=553afa7546dffd20c16bca8e5f53d829&amp;searchtype=a">Skitka and Tetlock (1992, Journal of Experimental Social Psychology)</a> that contains a more complex version of the model I depict below.  Like many who are interested in politics, I've been following the recent budget debates with interest.  Beyond the issue specific partisanship (e.g. defunding NPR or Planned Parenthood), there is the larger issue of how much government can afford to provide a social safety net.  As the simplified model based on <a target="_blank" href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&amp;_udi=B6WJB-4D60JKC-73&amp;_user=10&amp;_coverDate=11%2F30%2F1992&amp;_rdoc=1&amp;_fmt=high&amp;_orig=gateway&amp;_origin=gateway&amp;_sort=d&amp;_docanchor=&amp;view=c&amp;_searchStrId=1692872812&amp;_rerunOrigin=scholar.google&amp;_acct=C000050221&amp;_version=1&amp;_urlVersion=0&amp;_userid=10&amp;md5=553afa7546dffd20c16bca8e5f53d829&amp;searchtype=a">this paper</a> argues, the desire to help others is based in large part on appraisals of how scarce resources are and how deserving people are of those resources.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/skitka_tetlock_scarcity_model_simplified.jpg" rel="lightbox[506]"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-507" title="skitka_tetlock_scarcity_model_simplified" src="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/skitka_tetlock_scarcity_model_simplified.jpg" alt="" width="531" height="284" /></a></p>
<p>This is basically common sense, but the interesting part is when we combine the model with research suggesting that conservatives are more likely than liberals to <a target="_blank" href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&amp;_udi=B6WJB-4D60JKC-73&amp;_user=10&amp;_coverDate=11%2F30%2F1992&amp;_rdoc=1&amp;_fmt=high&amp;_orig=gateway&amp;_origin=gateway&amp;_sort=d&amp;_docanchor=&amp;view=c&amp;_searchStrId=1692872812&amp;_rerunOrigin=scholar.google&amp;_acct=C000050221&amp;_version=1&amp;_urlVersion=0&amp;_userid=10&amp;md5=553afa7546dffd20c16bca8e5f53d829&amp;searchtype=a">react to threats</a> and <a target="_blank" href="http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~db=all~content=a913736955">avoid negative outcomes</a>, suggesting that in the first decision box, even given the same facts, conservatives are more likely than liberals to believe that scarce resources(e.g. the budget deficit) are likely to lead to ruin and therefore cut public assistance.  For example, this  might explain why <a target="_blank" href="http://people-press.org/report/717/">a recent Pew Research Poll</a> found that Republicans feel that the deficit is a bigger economic priority than adding more jobs (37% vs 22%), while the numbers were reversed for Democrats (41% think jobs is the most important economic concern vs. 15% for the deficit).</p>
<p>Further, when you get to the second decision box (appraising deservingness), conservatives are more likely to attribute success and failure to internal-controllable causes vs. liberals.  For example, this is a graph of yourmorals.org data and you'll notice that conservatives are more likely to attribute their success at work and in relationships to effort (an internal-controllable trait) versus ability (internal, but not necessarily controllable) or context/luck (external).  This attributional divide has been documented in other published research.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/causality_new1.jpg" rel="lightbox[506]"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-508" title="liberal vs. conservative attributions" src="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/causality_new1.jpg" alt="" width="490" height="370" /></a></p>
<p>When you combine these two factors, it is no surprise that liberals and conservatives have very different ideas about a social safety net.  Each group may be psychologically predisposed to believing in more or less scarcity and more or less personal responsibility for outcomes, even given the same information about the world.</p>
<p>These dispositions may actually also cause people to be more liberal or conservative, or to support such policies, as<a target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terror_management_theory"> research on mortality salience has succeeded in increasing support for conservative candidates</a>.  There is a lack of research on causes of liberalism, but anecdotally, <a target="_blank" href="http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-spokane/michael-moore-to-wisconsin-protesters-america-and-wisconsin-is-not-broke">Michael Moore recently told a liberal audience that "America is not broke."</a> and in my anecdotal experience of religion, one of the main principles of many <a target="_blank" href="http://www.noetic.org/library/audio-interviews/michael-bernard-beckwith-essential-shifts/">liberal churches is the idea that we need to think of the world as full of abundance, not scarcity</a>.  The ironic thing is that just when people need help most (conditions of scarcity) and Keynesian economics would suggest we should spend more, the psychology of the situation predisposes us to be less generous.  Of course, that's from my liberal point of view, where I'm predisposed to such beliefs.</p>
<p>- Ravi Iyer</p>
<p>ps If anyone knows of studies where an abundance mentality leads to liberal beliefs, I'd love to hear from you.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Why is Warren Buffett liberal on the estate tax? A Review of The Snowball.</title>
		<link>http://www.polipsych.com/2010/11/17/review-warren-buffet-the-snowball/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2010 20:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ravi</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I read Warren Buffett's authorized biography recently and the fact that I finished the book (which isn't short) is a testament to the writing of the book and to the uniqueness of Buffett himself.  I now understand why people continue to flock to Omaha for Berkshire Hathaway shareholder meetings, where Buffett gives his opinion on [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read Warren Buffett's authorized biography recently and the fact that I finished the book (which isn't short) is a testament to the writing of the book and to the uniqueness of Buffett himself.  I now understand why <a target="_blank" href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alan-schram/notes-from-berkshire-hath_b_559941.html">people continue to flock to Omaha for Berkshire Hathaway shareholder meetings</a>, where Buffett gives his opinion on the market.  His ideas on the economy have stood the test of time and his focus on the intrinsic worth of a company (rather than the momentary worth that impulsive stock trader's give a company) has proven effective.  The book's name, The Snowball, is named for the fact that Buffett understood the power of compounding rates of return from a very young age and began building his "snowball" of money early on, increasing his capital so that he could take advantage of opportunities to come.  From a psychological perspective, one might say that he was extremely good at <a target="_blank" href="http://www.courseweb.uottawa.ca/epi6181/images/Delay_gratification.pdf">delaying gratification, which has been linked to better outcomes in life</a> and <a target="_blank" href="http://www.yale.edu/scan/Shamosh_inpress_Intelligence.pdf">intelligence</a>.  Some of us bought things with our money to enjoy, while Buffet invested that money, a decision which obviously has worked well for him.</p>
<p>From a political psychology perspective, one fact about Warren Buffett is particularly interesting.  He has a liberal position, obviously contrary to his self-interest, on the estate tax.  From p.596 of my edition of his book:</p>
<blockquote><p>He liked to compare his tax rate to his secretary's, pointing out how<br />
unjust it was that she paid a higher tax rate on her income than he<br />
did, just because most of his income came from investing.  Having<br />
already angered all the plutocrats and would-be plutocrats, but with<br />
his credibility at a peak in other quarters, Buffett vowed to carry on<br />
the fight against repeal of the estate tax, and would spin on this<br />
subject for years.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not only is this position contrary to his self-interest, but from the book, one might infer that he is low on openness to experience and high on conscientiousness, <a target="_blank" href="http://www.psych.nyu.edu/jost/Carney,%20Jost,%20&amp;%20Gosling%20(2008)%20The%20secret%20lives%20of%20liberals%20.pdf">two traits which have been found to be central to ideological preferences</a>, with Buffett's pattern being opposite to most liberals.  As an example, Buffet is described as unable to eat foreign foods, preferring plain hamburgers, consistent with low openness to experience scores (e.g. <a target="_blank" href="http://hunch.com/media/reports/food/">liberals are more adventurous eaters</a>).  He is famously conscientious in terms of his business dealings.  Below is yourmorals data relating these personality traits to ideology, replicating the study linked above.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/big_five0.jpg" rel="lightbox[387]"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-388" title="big_five0" src="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/big_five0.jpg" alt="Big Five Traits of Liberals, Conservatives, and Libertarians" width="499" height="400" /></a></p>
<p>From reading the book, my answer to the above question would be that Buffett is also very high on empathic concern, which might logically be related to agreeableness in the above graph, where you might notice that liberals score a bit higher.  Answers to questions like "I would describe myself as a pretty soft hearted person" correlate highly (r=.5) with agreeableness scores and with liberal identification (r=-.2, 1-7 lib-con).  Buffett is not a social person in the book, but he does care about the people around him a great deal, <a target="_blank" href="http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1843839,00.html">a realization that appears to ever more salient as he gets older and mortality is a more salient concern</a>.  Perhaps it is this empathic concern that leads him to be more liberal on tax policy, while <a target="_blank" href="http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08/30/100830fa_fact_mayer">other wealthy individuals actively fight the estate tax</a>.  Some research indicates that the <a target="_blank" href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1691969">primacy of ensuring economic growth versus caring for others, both noble goals that sometimes conflict, is central to notions of distributive justice</a>.  Buffett may have fewer productivity goals compared to other CEOs, as his investing has the feel of a game that he loves, rather than a job.</p>
<p>Finally, I'd like to share one last tangientially related quote from the final pages of the book, which I found especially wise, more wise than his investment advice actually.  I do recommend the whole book.</p>
<blockquote><p>People ask me where they should go to work, and I always tell them to<br />
go to work for whom they admire the most,  It's crazy to take little<br />
in-between jobs just because they look good on your resume.  That's<br />
like saving sex for your old age.  Do what you love and work for whom<br />
you admire the most, and you've given yourself the best chance in life<br />
you can.</p></blockquote>
<p>- Ravi Iyer</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>What is fair for migrant workers? &#8211; Stephen Colbert&#8217;s testimony to congress</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 22:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ravi</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My last post concerned moral maximizing and I believe the issue of migrant labor is one which relates.  As Stephen Colbert uses satire to relate in the below video, the pragmatic reality is that vegetables are not going to be picked by Americans in the United States through the invisible hand of the free market.

Want [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My last post concerned moral maximizing and I believe the issue of migrant labor is one which relates.  As Stephen Colbert uses satire to relate in <a target="_blank" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1T75jBYeCs" target="_blank">the below video</a>, the pragmatic reality is that vegetables are not going to be picked by Americans in the United States through the invisible hand of the free market.</p>
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<p>Want proof of this reality?  In June, the United Farm Workers union attempted an interesting experiment whereby it offered to train American citizens to replace migrant labor.  Colbert testifies that 16 people took them up on the offer (him included) and press reports indicate that <a target="_blank" href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;source=news&amp;cd=2&amp;ved=0CD8QqQIwAQ&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fabclocal.go.com%2Fkfsn%2Fstory%3Fsection%3Dnews%2Fag_watch%26id%3D7677524&amp;ei=DxydTOCEK46-sAPF8bHWAQ&amp;usg=AFQjCNEkDK-784Ha5xjfDgRVlLYsjlSpAA">only 7 people took the offer</a>.  Whichever number it is, it seems fairly low.  Still, immigration reform seems unlikely to pass anytime soon as it seems to stimulate conflicting ideas of what is 'fair'.  Migrant workers are virtually powerless and easily taken advantage of....but they are also breaking the law by coming to this country, and these conflicting considerations are differentially appealing to liberals and conservatives.</p>
<p>The below graph illustrates this differential appeal with data from yourmorals.org.  I asked individuals how 'wrong' different situations felt to them.  Some concerned equity ("A person who contributes more to society is not rewarded.), equality ("A bonus is given to a work team for good performance and the money is not divided equally."), need("'A free meal is given to the rich, rather than to the hungry."), retribution ("A person commits a crime and goes unpunished."), and procedures ("A negotiation occurs without everyone completely understanding the process.").  These situations may all be of varying severity, so it is difficult to interpret differences between dimensions, but one can make inferences about liberals and conservatives within dimensions.  Specifically, liberals (in blue below) felt that violations of equality and need (which formed one factor) were more wrong than did conservatives.  Similarly, conservatives (in red below) felt that violations of retributive justice principles were more wrong than did liberals.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/feelings-about-fairness.png" rel="lightbox[324]"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-325" title="feelings about fairness" src="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/feelings-about-fairness.png" alt="" width="560" height="240" /></a></p>
<p>Fair policies toward migrant workers depend on what you want to focus on....their lack of equal status, equal opportunity and need (which liberals seem to care about more).  Or their illegal entry into the United States (which conservatives care more about).  Colbert says as much in a rare break of character when responding to questions during the congressional hearing.</p>
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<p>- Ravi Iyer</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Is belief in the Protestant Work Ethic related to attitudes toward rich and poor?</title>
		<link>http://www.polipsych.com/2010/08/17/is-the-protestant-work-ethic-related-to-rich-poor-attitudes/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 08:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ravi</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently, a call went out to people who study social psychology to examine the relationships between belief in the protestant work ethic (e.g. "I feel uneasy when there is little work for me to do.") and measures of prejudice or political attitudes regarding poverty or HIV/AIDS. Researchers from Stony Brook University wanted to aggregate the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently, <a target="_blank" href="http://groups.google.com/group/spsp-discuss/browse_thread/thread/19cbde30c4470390/dfa6694453ceab5a?lnk=gst&amp;q=protestant#dfa6694453ceab5a" target="_blank">a call went out to people who study social psychology</a> to examine the relationships between belief in the protestant work ethic (e.g. "I feel uneasy when there is little work for me to do.") and measures of prejudice or political attitudes regarding poverty or HIV/AIDS. Researchers from Stony Brook University wanted to aggregate the results from datasets around the world. Since we do have endorsement of the protestant work ethic in our yourmorals.org dataset, I wanted to contribute to their effort and below are some correlations with potentially interesting constructs.  Hopefully this will help those researchers.</p>
<p>Correlation of Protestant Work Ethic with....</p>
<p>Attitudes Toward Homosexuals (r=-.36, N=303, p&lt;.001)<br />
Attitudes Toward Muslims (r=-.11, N=305, p&lt;.05)<br />
Attitudes Toward Poor People (r=-.193, N=306, p=.001)<br />
Social Dominance Orientation ("Inferior groups should stay in their place", r=.336, N=331, p&lt;.001)</p>
<p>I'm not sure if these are exactly the types or relationships that the researchers are interested in, but they seem related. The relationships seem pretty clear...that the protestant work ethic is related to negative attitudes toward outgroups (muslims, homosexuals, "inferior groups" and poor people).  However, the relationship between conservativism and the protestant work ethic is large enough (r=.416, N=1009, p&lt;.001), that it's possible that the only reason these variables are related is because they are all correlated with conservativism.</p>
<p>Sure enough, if we control for political orientation, the relationships become statistically insignificant for attitudes toward homosexuals (beta=-.085, N=229, p=.143) and Muslims (p=.459).  Attitudes toward poor people (beta = -.159, N=231, p&lt;.05) and social dominance orientation (beta = .138, N=262, p&lt;.05) remain significantly related to belief in the protestant work ethic, even controlling for ideology.</p>
<p>The below diagram shows this in graph form, where attitudes toward poor people are negatively related to endorsement of the protestant work ethic amongst both liberals and conservatives.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/pwe_poor0.jpg" rel="lightbox[272]"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-273" title="pwe_poor0" src="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/pwe_poor0.jpg" alt="" width="624" height="500" /></a></p>
<p>...and people who endorse the protestant work ethic also like rich people (see below).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/pwe_rich0.jpg" rel="lightbox[272]"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-274" title="pwe_rich0" src="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/pwe_rich0.jpg" alt="" width="624" height="500" /></a></p>
<p>At some level, this relationship is fairly obvious, but as a liberal, it's something worth internalizing, since liberals sometimes make negative attributions about conservative attitudes toward the poor (despite the fact that conservative churches often do great humanitarian work). Specifically, <a target="_blank" href="http://www.showmeprogress.com/diary/4427/why-do-conservatives-hate-poor-people" target="_blank">conservatives may not dislike poor people mindlessly</a>.  Rather, their opinions about rich and poor people may be related to worthy moral concerns, specifically a belief in the importance of hard work, and they may feel that wealth is indicative of hard work.  Results are consistent with <a target="_blank" href="http://faculty.haas.berkeley.edu/tetlock/Vita/Philip%20Tetlock/Phil%20Tetlock/1992-1993/1993%20Providing%20Public%20Assistance....pdf" target="_blank">work by Skitka and Tetlock</a>, showing that conservatives are strongly influenced by the responsibility shown by those who want assistance.</p>
<p>How can liberals use this knowledge? Perhaps rather than playing the race/fairness angle, if liberals can show that most Hispanic immigrants are actually very hard working (e.g. <a target="_blank" href="http://www.tedconover.com/book-coyotes/" target="_blank">see Ted Conover's book, Coyotes</a> - they do jobs which most of us would never do) much conservative antipathy towards various groups might dissipate.  Indeed, while much of the media makes it seem that Americans support efforts by people in Arizona to expel illegal immigrants, there are also findings like <a target="_blank" href="http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/07/29/cnn-poll-should-illegal-immigrants-be-allowed-to-stay/">this CNN poll</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Eighty-one percent of people questioned in the poll say they support creating a program that would allow illegal immigrants already living in the U.S. for a number of years to stay here and apply to legally remain in this country permanently if they <em>had a job and paid back taxes</em>, with 19 percent opposed to such a plan.</p></blockquote>
<p>- Ravi Iyer</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Democrats and Republicans agree that Justice &amp; Fairness are about Equity, not Equality or Impartiality</title>
		<link>http://www.polipsych.com/2010/02/20/democrats-and-republicans-agree-that-justice-fairness-are-about-equity-not-equality-or-impartiality/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 05:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ravi</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was browsing CNN today and I decided to expand my moral imagination by watching Glenn Beck Speak at the Conservative Political Action Committee meeting.  I was surprised how reasonable his message sounded to me, as I my previous impression of him was not good.

I believe that people should be able to get what they deserve [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was browsing CNN today and I decided to expand my moral imagination by watching <a target="_blank" title="Glenn Beck speaks at CPAC" href="http://cnn.com/video/?/video/politics/2010/02/20/sot.beck.cpac.cnn" target="_blank">Glenn Beck Speak at the Conservative Political Action Committee</a> meeting.  I was surprised how reasonable his message sounded to me, as I my <a href="http://www.polipsych.com/2009/09/23/moral-confabulation-glenn-beck-says-obama-is-a-racist-liberals-compare-bush-to-hitler/" target="_self">previous impression of him was not good</a>.</p>
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<p>I believe that people should be able to get what they deserve too. I don't begrudge small businesses who succeed through hard work. I appreciate hard work as much as anyone. Does that mean that I should switch parties?</p>
<p>None of my posts would be complete without a graph, so I decided to look at some of our data on justice and fairness from yourmorals.org. Below is a graph of how various ideologies would view changing a hypothetical allocation of a reward from ambiguous toward the use of some specific type of justice or fairness.</p>
<p>Equity concerns giving more to those who contribute more.  Equality concerns making the distribution more equal.  Need concerns giving more to those who need it more. Open information concerns making sure everyone understands the process. Equal voice concerns allowing everyone an equal say in how to make the allocation. Retribution concerns giving less reward to those who violate some relevant group norm. Higher bars indicate that making a change toward that principle is more desirable.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/allocation_principle_by_political_party0.jpg" rel="lightbox[110]"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-111" title="allocation principle by political party" src="http://www.polipsych.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/allocation_principle_by_political_party0.jpg" alt="Democrats Republicans Fairness Justice Equity Equality Need" width="562" height="450" /></a></p>
<p>What did I learn from this graph? Liberals do care more about equality and need than conservatives and conservatives do care more about equity and retribution.  However, both liberals and conservatives (and libertarians) find an equity based distribution (e.g. "Suppose the company instituted a way of quantifying each employee's contributions, and it then adjusted the bonuses up or down accordingly") to be more desirable to an equal distribution (e.g. "Suppose the company divided the money such that each employee received an equal share<strong>.</strong>")  This somewhat captures how I feel about things.  I care about people getting what they deserve, but perhaps I am willing to consider equality and need in some situations as well.</p>
<p>Below is another graph using different participants, which concerns endorsement of abstract principles rather than hypothetical allocations and again, we see that the proportionality principle (e.g. "Whether or not those who contribute more are rewarded more") is deemed most important.</p>
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<p>The take home message for Democrats? Stop letting Republicans define policy as choices between equity and equality/need. Nobody is trying to stop small businesses from succeeding...few people want a completely equal society.</p>
<p>Rather, let's see if people are really getting what they deserve in life.  Do investment bankers really deserve million dollar bonuses?  I don't think they necessarily produce much more than many, and obviously in the past few years, their collective output has been negative. So I see taxing banks to recoup losses as a matter of equity/proportionality, not equality.</p>
<p>How about the working poor who work hard and then are bankrupted by a single medical expense? What percentage of Americans actually make enough money to pay for a chronic illness? We all need health care that doesn't go away when we get really sick and need to use it. So maybe health care isn't a right, but how can one argue with making sure the working poor and children all have health care? Does Glenn Beck's father, who owned a bakery and therefore would have immense trouble buying health care without a large risk pool, deserve health care less than those investment bankers who drove the economy into the ground with high risk derivatives?  If not, maybe we should do something about that.</p>
<p>Democrats should welcome a debate about how to really give people what they deserve in life.</p>
<p>- Ravi Iyer</p>]]></content:encoded>
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