Comments on: Psychological Causes of Violence in Sports Riots http://www.polipsych.com/2010/06/30/psychological-causes-of-violence-in-sports-riots/ Exploring Political Attitudes Through Moral Psychology Mon, 23 Jan 2012 07:25:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: When Ingroup Love does not equal Outgroup Hate | A Politics & Moral Psychology Blog http://www.polipsych.com/2010/06/30/psychological-causes-of-violence-in-sports-riots/comment-page-1/#comment-1706 When Ingroup Love does not equal Outgroup Hate | A Politics & Moral Psychology Blog Mon, 09 May 2011 18:32:37 +0000 http://www.polipsych.com/?p=233#comment-1706 [...] certainly there is a minority who will use the death of Bin Laden to express dislike of Islam.  Testosterone, that accompanies winning, can have that effect.  However, several research studies have shown that ingroup love and [...] [...] certainly there is a minority who will use the death of Bin Laden to express dislike of Islam.  Testosterone, that accompanies winning, can have that effect.  However, several research studies have shown that ingroup love and [...]

]]> By: When Ingroup Love does not equal Outgroup Hate | A Politics & Moral Psychology Blog http://www.polipsych.com/2010/06/30/psychological-causes-of-violence-in-sports-riots/comment-page-1/#comment-1707 When Ingroup Love does not equal Outgroup Hate | A Politics & Moral Psychology Blog Mon, 09 May 2011 18:32:37 +0000 http://www.polipsych.com/?p=233#comment-1707 [...] certainly there is a minority who will use the death of Bin Laden to express dislike of Islam.  Testosterone, that accompanies winning, can have that effect.  However, several research studies have shown that ingroup love and [...] [...] certainly there is a minority who will use the death of Bin Laden to express dislike of Islam.  Testosterone, that accompanies winning, can have that effect.  However, several research studies have shown that ingroup love and [...]

]]> By: Ravi http://www.polipsych.com/2010/06/30/psychological-causes-of-violence-in-sports-riots/comment-page-1/#comment-541 Ravi Thu, 01 Jul 2010 17:29:47 +0000 http://www.polipsych.com/?p=233#comment-541 I didn't mean to imply that testosterone always cause riots. Of course there are other factors involved. Merely that it helps explain why rioting occurs more often in cities that win as opposed to cities that lose. I didn’t mean to imply that testosterone always cause riots. Of course there are other factors involved. Merely that it helps explain why rioting occurs more often in cities that win as opposed to cities that lose.

]]> By: Kitsune http://www.polipsych.com/2010/06/30/psychological-causes-of-violence-in-sports-riots/comment-page-1/#comment-540 Kitsune Thu, 01 Jul 2010 16:29:52 +0000 http://www.polipsych.com/?p=233#comment-540 Oops. By "Therefore, not -(A -> B -> C)" I meant "Therefore, -(A -> B -> C)". Oops.

By “Therefore, not -(A -> B -> C)” I meant “Therefore, -(A -> B -> C)”.

]]> By: Kitsune http://www.polipsych.com/2010/06/30/psychological-causes-of-violence-in-sports-riots/comment-page-1/#comment-539 Kitsune Thu, 01 Jul 2010 16:28:14 +0000 http://www.polipsych.com/?p=233#comment-539 The testosterone thing doesn't surprise me in the least bit. But is it even the least bit scientific to attribute the riots to testosterone using a mere correlation? In fact, I would think that such an attribution is pretty clearly disconfirmed. After all, if these increases in testosterone are a product of victory and the riots are a product of these increases then there should be riots everywhere there are victories. But there aren't. A -> B -> C. -C. Therefore, not -(A -> B-> C). Ehrm, I hope that is valid. There should also be the most riots in the areas where there are the most victories. Are there? It seems pretty clear that these riots are cultural - it's a vastly simpler explanation, and while it isn't one that is scientific it is at worst equally bad as already falsified scientific claims. The testosterone thing doesn’t surprise me in the least bit. But is it even the least bit scientific to attribute the riots to testosterone using a mere correlation? In fact, I would think that such an attribution is pretty clearly disconfirmed. After all, if these increases in testosterone are a product of victory and the riots are a product of these increases then there should be riots everywhere there are victories. But there aren’t.

A -> B -> C. -C. Therefore, not -(A -> B-> C). Ehrm, I hope that is valid.

There should also be the most riots in the areas where there are the most victories. Are there? It seems pretty clear that these riots are cultural – it’s a vastly simpler explanation, and while it isn’t one that is scientific it is at worst equally bad as already falsified scientific claims.

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